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NIGHTJESSI |
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Several regulars already watched this episode and are ready to comment since it was originally on the docket for last weekend before the big ezboard hack of Memorial Day. So feel free to add your comments here as time permits.
~*~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~*~
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Unregistered(d) |
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I really enjoyed this little sitcom, with Michael and Nikita playing house! No, it wouldn't have worked as a regular plotline, but it was cute!
Once again, Nikita is faced with the inner battle of the greater cause. But, somehow this time didn't seem like quite a battle for her. Maybe because she was able to be close to Michael throughout, she drew on his strength. When they told each other "I love you"... I'm proud of Ops and Maddy for not actually hurting the boy, and agreeing to set him free, since he wouldn't serve them any more purpose. Afterall, he was only an innocent boy, and deserves to grow up somewhat normal. Nikita did the right thing, by allowing the father to see his boy, and know he's still alive. If nothing else, it put her heart at ease. The cancelled scene here was cute too. Michael hurting his back while "valentining"! Classic!"It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven"
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NIGHTJESSI |
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Quote:Much as my HR heart loved seeing M and N as husband and wife in this suburban setting, elevendaze, LFN would have died if this is what our beloved couple had turned into after Hard Landing. Quote:Yeah, it may only be a mission, but, of course, we HRs will take what we can get. Sigh! Quote:That was such a surprise especially after Hillinger's recruitment. Then again, maybe this boy didn't have any talents that Section could exploit and that's why he was cut loose. As for the canceled scene, that definitely has to be one of the best "new" LFN items we have had in a while. It's a cute scene but didn't quite fit the tone of the rest of episode so I can see why it wasn't included. ~*~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~*~
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Unregistered(d) |
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Quote: Well, yeah it was a mission, but if you look at Nikita when she says "Michael, I love you" you can tell she's saying it from the heart. Not scripted. "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven"
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NIGHTJESSI |
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I wonder how hard it was for M and N to be in situations where they had to perform like they were together. After all, they still needed to concentrate on the missions at hand, but the chance to have stolen moments protected by mission action could have been blissful and maddening all at the same time.
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blackcondor1 |
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This is a long post - please excuse my verbosity
The episode opens with a beautiful scene of Michael and Nikita in bed with each other. He comes on to her (all I can do here is just drool), but she refuses his advances, stating that he would hurt his back again. Then she says that she loves him, and he says that he loves her too, and while it does not sound as real than their non-verbal signs of love in some other episodes, it is still nice to hear. This is the famous Armel mission. Michael and Nikita must obtain files of Joaquim Armel, the lawyer of Franz Gerrin who continues to lead the First Flag terrorist group from his prison cell, using Armel as a courier for his orders. One weakness Armel has is the grief for his son, Louis, whom he apparently lost in a car accident ten months previously. Michael and Nikita play house, pretending to be a happily married couple, and Nikita has to pretend to be a powerful psychic. Naturally, Armel goes to Nikita for her services as a psychic. When she refuses, as per the mission script, the pair is kidnapped. They are so convincing as two helpless people when their home is invaded it is just SO funny how Michael says to those goons: please, dont hurt us! whereas in reality Michael and Nikita can kick their a$$es in no time at all. Such good acting on the part of them both! Of course, Nikita has to do the most dangerous part she has to be alone in the room with Armel and two of his goons, persuade him to turn off the security system etc., and keep him busy, while the other operatives are getting into his safe. Here, too, I must admire her acting skills the way a tear runs down one of her cheeks as she pretends to make the connection with the spirit of the boy. Its a classic. From the way Birkoff gives her the intel, Nikita guesses that Louis is still alive, and when Nikita finds out where Section keeps the buffered hostiles (so much like Section to treat a young man as a hostile), she finds the video feed of the boy sitting in his cell, acting very bored. Operations catches her at it, and tells her that he is ready to sacrifice the boy if it becomes necessary. In the end, predictably, they bring in Armel, he tells Madeline everything, and she orders his cancellation. Nikita persuades Madeline to let Armel see Louis through an observation panel of his cell, and tells Armel that Louis will not be harmed. Her human side really shows here she does this for her own peace of mind. Operations and Madeline later decide to release the boy with some memory modification, because Madeline does note deem him to be useful to the Section. Also in this episode Madeline finds out that her mother is dying. She asks Operations to let her see her mother, because she is senile and cannot remember anything. At first he refuses, that is until Birkoff makes a comment to him that she appears to be out of it and almost sad. Obviously, that comment changes his mind and he brings Madelines mother into Section so that Madeline can see her for the last time. That is when we find out that Madeline has been blaming herself for her sisters accidental death for many years. And just when Madeline thought her mother might have forgiven her, her mother calls her Sarah as she is about to leave the room. No wonder this encounter did not help Madeline one bit. Not a bad episode. It is nice to see Nikita in romantic situations with Michael even though it is an act in this one unlike in some others! The SOTW could be a little less gullible though. "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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blackcondor1 |
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elevendaze,
Quote: ITA - it was amazing to see how human Operations can be when he wants to. Quote: Actually, the deleted scene truly explains the reason Nikita refuses to make love to Michael in the opening scene. In the opening scene, she says something like "that's how you got hurt in the first place". "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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blackcondor1 |
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NIGHTJESSI,
Quote: ITA here - I can imagine Louis Armel was most probably just an ordinary boy. Lucky duck! "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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One of my favourites. Quote: Count me in on that. I rememmber being so dissapointed the first time I saw it, because it was only a mission You know the drill: Don't contradict me, or the White room & the TWINS await for you!!! ) Quote: All I can say is: Who cares if it's just a mission?? They said it! they said it! And ITA, Nikita's " I love you", came from the heart. She wasn't acting. This way.....she could be sincere.....take a load of her heart...in a safe way. She could always pretend it's just the mission profile if things wouldn't work out. Although we ALL know the truth!! ( including Michael here Quote: I'm proud too.....and surprised at the same time! Their glimpses of humanity in S1&2 always take me by surprise: I just stand there: "Where did THAT came from?" And still I DON"T like how "memory modification" or adjustment sounds. NOT AT ALL!!! Too much foreseeing of future events if you ask me Quote: ITA here! I just wish they took advantage of them more often! Quote: That cracks me up every time! BTW, about that "that's how you hurt your back" - a transcript I read stated "What were they doing? practicing the entire Kama Sutra on the kitchen table?" And one more thing I love about the ep: the "I can't tell you YET" part of course. Be still my heart!! And the smile that appears on N's face when she aknowledges that "yet"....Priceless!!! ![]() |
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ShadesOfGrey |
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I liked this episode mostly because it showed the softer side of Michael. I just had to laugh when he said "please don't hurt us" knowing full well that he could totally kick some a$$. I like the end when Nikita and Michael are talking about how they feel about the mission. When Michael says "what you need to hear I can't tell you yet... you know alot about me but not everything, somthings need to remain hidden" knowing the future I kept thinking of the blood cover and that was his only thing holding him back.
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blackcondor1 |
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ShadesOfGrey,
Quote: I thought exactly the same thing, even though I have only heard of the blood cover and not seen Season 3 yet. "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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NIGHTJESSI |
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Quote:Oh, blackcondor, you should know by know how much we enjoy when people have a lot to say about the episodes. Quote:I'm always surprised at the things that Section will do to get to an SOTW. Granted, Louis' father was a terrorist so Louis was probably better off not being with him. But 10 months is a long time to keep a kid imprisoned for possible use in a mission. What other horrible things has Section done because the ends justify the means? Quote:I always got a kick out of this too. If Armel's men only knew what our beloved couple were capable of. And that's what makes it that much sweeter when M can actually be himself later on. Quote:It's interesting how even as bad as Armel was, N still wanted to make peace with the situation and let Armel know that his son was safe. I wonder what the memory modification really did to Louis. Did he even remember his father, or was he completely led to believe something else about his life going forward? Quote:This was so sad to me. It's obvious how out of it Maddy's mother is, but it still had to be painful after all these years to not really make peace with the situation. Her logical mind probably told her it was no big deal, but you could tell this encounter really touched her heart in a sad way. Poor Maddy! Quote:Family often tends to be a weakness with SOTWs, and obviously Armel was reeling from the one good thing in his life being taken away. Quote:I love your alternate reality because it's the same one I've conjured up for M and N, Patty. They deserve to be happy after all they've been through. Quote:Yeah, it's definitely not a good thing. And if it really worked, why not use it on all the ops to control them? Hmmm ... Quote:That is too funny. I love it. Now those would definitely be some NC-17 moments. Quote:They may have only been on a mission, but obviously it affected M in a way where he felt he had to at least tell N something, even if it wasn't much. My HR heart soars every time I see this scene. Quote:Yes, ShadesOfGrey, we certainly got a different side of M, and it made me wonder how into M and N we would be if they were really suburbanites with regular day jobs. Quote:Well, blackcondor, you'll be a little less shocked than we were when we saw it for the first time. But it's still mindblowing to see. ~*~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~*~
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ShadesOfGrey |
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Well Blackcondor only a couple of weeks now
Then you get to see season 3 yay
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blackcondor1 |
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Yeah, ShadesOfGrey,
I am very happy "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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loan31 |
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After M said it was a mistake, N had a look of surprise and wanting to cover herself as if exposed.
had put ordres in place, on how often a married couple should make love |
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blackcondor1 |
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loan31,
INHO, Madeline was very naughty "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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Unregistered(d) |
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Quote: Many, many, many irrational things: like brainwashing N, wanting to cancel M several times, letting a psycho kill prostitutes, accepting his "hobby" ( but that's a discussion for a future ep), etc.....the liost can go on forever. But I guess ..... to really make a difference they had to be as ruthless as the ones they were fighting agains, otherwise they wouldn't have a chance. They'll always have a weakness of which the terrorists would take advantage. Quote: Yup. When he reveals to Armel who he really was...M actually seemed proud of himself. kinda like : "this is really me, not the one you thought you kidnapped, so.....eat your heart out!" Quote: My guess is they just erased the past 10 months of his memory completely and relocated him. Quote: You know Jessi, although usually I hate Maddy, this time I really felt sorry for her. I wish her mother had recognized her....and told her that she necer blamed her for her sister's death. She was just a child...She really did create her personal Hell and my guess is she never let anyone get to her. Quote: Jessi....ssssssstttttt....... don't give them any ideas!!! Although they did try to start a pattern in that....Gelman process If it hadn't been for Super Mickey....I believe they would really have tried it on everyone else. Quote: I LIKE that!! I think he was telling her no to give up completely on him Quote: I think the same about N covering herself. She certainly woke up happy and whe M told her it was a mistake.... ![]() |
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blackcondor1 |
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Pattyko,
Quote: And oh, what enjoyment they must have had when Michael helped Nikita to "relax" the previous night! "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
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Unregistered(d) |
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Quote: Right on the spot, Blackcondor Although ... it couldn't have been that pleasant knowing that both the STOWs and Section were watching!! ![]() |
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This was such a revealing episode for two usually inscrutable characters. It's always interesting to see Nikita's feelings toward Micheal soften following a contretemps in their relationship like the one that occurred in First Mission. I sympathized with Madeline and enjoyed the fact that although it was unnecessary to her objectives, she allowed Nikita to acquaint Armel with the truth about his son before he was canceled.
That said however considering Micheal's blood cover, he should have chosen someone else for this mission. Yes, I love Micheal and Nikita together under any circumstances, but his continued pulling away from Nikita, only to lure her back, and then coldly rebuff her as he did in Inside Out, totally sucks! Although on one level, I am in awe of Micheal's attachment to Nikita because their love defines that elemental bond that so many will never know, the other side of that truth is that Micheal's refusal to let go of Nikita is selfish. Micheal will not tolerate Nikita's attachment to any one else, (Jurgen) but until he's ready to be with her, he wants her to wait. Which begs the question, what does he really think will happen after A Time For Every Purpose Under The Sun? Somehow I never thought their separation would be all that long. |
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NIGHTJESSI |
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Quote:Yes, Patty, that's why Section succeeded, but it was indeed sometimes tough to watch how Section defeated its opponents. Quote:It would have been nice but completely out of character for the show. After all, LFN is never really about happy endings ... is it? Quote:Talk about a reality check! It might have been a wonderful night, but now it's morning and they have to get to the business at hand. Quote:Anansiimoj, that was definitely unfair to N. But I also think that if she truly didn't want to wait for M, she wouldn't have. It's like their bond transcends even the hardest of obstacles because they are meant to be together. ~*~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~*~
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