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NIGHTJESSI	LFN on DVD: New Regime	Lead	[-]
Posts: 11666 (04/24/05 16:51:02) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None My apologies if you've been waiting for this thread to start tonight's discussion. I was enjoying my Sunday so much that I fell asleep and just woke up now! Talk about relaxing. I did watch the episode already and am working up my commentary now, so feel free to add your thoughts in the meantime. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#1	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/24/05 17:01:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	HI JESSI I'm glad sweetie ... to know you enjoyed your Sunday ... sleeping a lot ... In the meantime .... you prepare your commentary about New Regime ... wanna a beer ?? you know ... just to relax better .. to see Michael ... entering to the night-club for meeting with Nikita .... GOD !! ... see ...HOW does he look at her ... I become crazy .... (welll .... much more ,yet ... )
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#2	[-]
Posts: 11666 (04/24/05 17:38:38) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanx for the beverage offer, maap, but I'm not a beer drinker. I'll just have a Pepsi with ice. In any case, I do love that look and that slow motion when M enters the club. Talk about I feel like fainting whenever I see that, and I just wonder what went through N's mind at that moment. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#3	[-]
Posts: 11666 (04/24/05 17:42:56) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My apologies again for the delay. My usual Sunday lineup started, so I've been trying to put this together between commercials. Not only do we have another great episode, but we have the canceled scene this time around. I'm with Jon Cassar on not needing the deleted scene. It would have definitely made the teaser less impactful and also would have made me wonder why someone didn't reel in Kronen after the outburst in Munitions. I don't know why I never realized this (or maybe I just never thought about it before) but watching it this time around, when Petrosian was talking to N about taking advantage of people's weaknesses, I could see in her eyes her loyalty shifting. She realized that he was taking advantage of her weakness for wanting a life outside Section and she saw how much he was making her take advantage of other people, and she didn't like it one bit. Even though I know what's coming, I still love the twist when N fakes Petrosian out and he thinks he's achieved the ultimate power play. The respect between Petrosian and Ops is wild, considering what Petrosian tried to do to Ops. And I always think that perhaps Petrosian has laced his hand with one last chemical to get Ops once and for all, but what would that really do at this stage of the game? So do you think Maddy was right about N wanting power? I think initially it was thrilling to her, but it did turn her off eventually because of the things she was expected to do. Still, that touch of power must have been fun. N doesn't strike me as the type who would like being in power for long. Yes, she wants to do things her way and have her own life, but the cost of power is far too great for her. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
Unregistered(d)	LFN on DVD: New Regime	#4	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/24/05 18:13:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	nooo beer ... ?? But friend ... it's just a virtual beer ... Well ..., it's OK !! Pepsi is fine , too Ooohhh yes !! I love to see that scene in slow motion , too And , nooo.... only when he enters ... if not later .... when they are talking .... and his eyes looks at her mouth ... like if ... ... OMG !! his eyes are burning her I don't know HOW CAN she think anything ... and find words for talking ...
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#5	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/24/05 18:30:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	JESSI ... responding your question... >> ... So , do you think Maddy was right about Nikita wanting power ... ?? << Actually , I don't know .... Probably , Nikita just enjoy to give to Maddy ... a bit of her own medicine I love to see a short dialogue between those two women ... after Petrossian gave to Nikita ...the Maddy and Michael's job Maddy : " be careful , Nikita ... " Nikita : " ... of him ... or from you ... "
Sage	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#6	[-]
Posts: 289 (04/24/05 20:15:49) Alpha Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	just noticing that the music in the first mission is similar to the one used in the opening of "rescue" This ep is full of some of the funniest moments of the season Maddy: "your will has to be strong to...I'll help you"(GUN) ------- N:"M the only thing we know is that the disk is hidden in a book" M--in a room FULL of books -------- N:"how's operations" Maddy:little smile I'm confident the doctors are doing everthing they can I remember the first time I saw this...I was like OMG Ops was shot!!! I thought for sure N was having a dream --I know I'm about to get yelled at by some TR but I always wonder if Maddy cared more about Ops living or about her losing her power in section love that slow motion shot of M and N seeing each other too...when their eyes lock its just magic OMG "am I under orders to please you?" how on earth did N not faint right there!.....again the music choice was perfect how did petrosian know about M/N...he only just got to section?? *Quote:* I don't know why I never realized this (or maybe I just never thought about it before) but watching it this time around, when Petrosian was talking to N about taking advantage of people's weaknesses, I could see in her eyes her loyalty shifting. She realized that he was taking advantage of her weakness for wanting a life outside Section and she saw how much he was making her take advantage of other people, and she didn't like it one bit. same here...but she did understand she found HIS weakness.....here she learns that she doesn't want power..funny that she ends up with it in the very end scary Maddy!! run Nikita!! "don't be a child!"---she scares me Maddy and N always seem to have great tense scenes together...they were so similar and so diff at the same time *Quote:* Even though I know what's coming, I still love the twist when N fakes Petrosian out and he thinks he's achieved the ultimate power play. The respect between Petrosian and Ops is wild, considering what Petrosian tried to do to Ops. And I always think that perhaps Petrosian has laced his hand with one last chemical to get Ops once and for all, but what would that really do at this stage of the game? The respect between the 2 is something else....and I had the same thought when they shake hands...rule of section Trust No one One thing I don't really get is why Petrosian was put in charge..I would guess it was either Maddy or M to take over. Or was this done because of someone from the inside shooting Ops. LFN avs/sigs
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#7	[-]
Posts: 11666 (04/24/05 20:43:25) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Nikita just enjoy to give to Maddy ... a bit of her own medicine Maap, I could definitely see why N would like to throw things back in Maddy's face. But unfortunately, Maddy was right when she said that N didn't have what it took to do Maddy's job. After all, if N did, then she would have been able to cancel Sykes instead of Maddy having to bail her out of that one. *Quote:* just noticing that the music in the first mission is similar to the one used in the opening of "rescue" Sage, it sure does have the same vibe, but it's not Enigma. *Quote:* I always wonder if Maddy cared more about Ops living or about her losing her power in section I think the two are tied together. If Ops dies, then she loses her power in section. But I do think that she did care, above the power, about what happened to Ops. They obviously have a connection no matter how she tries to play it off. Otherwise, she wouldn't have worked so hard to ensure that he lived. *Quote:* how did petrosian know about M/N...he only just got to section?? Well, he did see them together at the end of Rescue and anyone who sees M and N together usually makes the connection about them. Besides, Petrosian was obviously looking at Section for weak points before conspiring to kill Ops, so he had to know about M and N's connection. *Quote:* One thing I don't really get is why Petrosian was put in charge..I would guess it was either Maddy or M to take over. Or was this done because of someone from the inside shooting Ops. Convenient plot twist? Actually, I'm thinking the fact that someone inside was involved allowed Petrosian to get his influential friends to move him up the ladder and take over Section. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
Raissa	Petrosian	#8	[-]
Posts: 530 (04/24/05 22:04:09) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Petrosian's gambit to take over section says everything about his cultural background. Historically, the typical slavic response has been "if there's an obstacle, shoot it." Frankly, I find Petrosian's death somewhat ironic in light of future events. He would have been one of the few people in section who would have truly appreciated how Nikita comes to power.
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#9	[-]
Posts: 536 (04/24/05 22:13:56) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Talking about a bad day , poor Sykes should have stayed . N whole appearence changed, walk , talk ,even the way she dressed. thats a perfect" GLAMOUR SHOT"at the bar with M. Of all the eps she look beautiful. in this one (to me).In order to have control Petrosian knew to pick the weakest one. Bad as N had been treated , the power had to get to her. As always she had to choose the lesser of 2 2
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#10	[-]
Posts: 11666 (04/25/05 02:04:43) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Frankly, I find Petrosian's death somewhat ironic in light of future events. He would have been one of the few people in section who would have truly appreciated how Nikita comes to power. This is true, Raissa. Even though I get that he was exploiting weakness, I found it interesting how he changed from really digging Maddy and Ops to aligning with N. Then again, at the time we first met him in Rescue, I'm sure he was grateful to Maddy and Ops for getting him out, and perhaps, even then, he was already buttering them up for his future takedown. *Quote:* N whole appearence changed, walk , talk ,even the way she dressed. No kidding, loan31. She sure was looking classy even in Section once she was handling tactical oversight. And I love the transition from those clothes to the more fun striped shirt, combat boots and backpack purse after Petrosian is no longer in power. What a shift! ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#11	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 03:22:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is not one of my favourite eps. (Don't shoot ) I love the encounter at the bar, of course, and the way M looks at N's lips, and Nikita's watch and all of her outfits, especially the last one, with the backpack. But aside from that... I didn't enjoy N seeing that the alarm went on and not pulling M out. Sure, he is THE BEST, but still.... Of course she redeemed herself with the "Retrieve M NOW!" and with the fact that when they came from the mission all she cared about was if M was OK *Quote:* So do you think Maddy was right about N wanting power? I definetly don't think M was right on this one. I got the impression that what drove N into accepting the position was M's "pep talk"(not in the actual sense of the expression, of course). Of course she was right that N wasn't equiped to do her job, but where were her psych abilities? I believe that whatever doubts N had about accepting the job, M made them go away. Indeed it was like *Quote:* Nikita just enjoy to give to Maddy ... a bit of her own medicine and I just loved that! One thing that cracked me up was Petrosian's conclusion after that mission : N = cool, objective. All I could think was : Ha! Loooool In what Universe? "What doesn't kill you,only makes you stronger." "When you wish for something with all your heart, all the Universe plots to grant your wish" Paolo Coehlo ,The Alchemist "It's the very possibility of making a dream come true, that makes life more interesting. The Alchemist
webweevil	Re: Scene	#12	[-]
Posts: 296 (04/25/05 03:53:03) Comm Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Another fine episode.... One scene that did bother me though was the bar scene with Nikita and Michael. When she went off about Michael being jealous of her new power, I just wanted to shake the silly girl! Talk about acting like a child. Boy did she pull that one out of the air! Michael had hardly said anything yet. I think the writers sometimes went too far with Nikita's immature behavior.
Sage	Re: LFN on DVD: New Regime	#13	[-]
Posts: 289 (04/25/05 07:45:25) Alpha Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* I didn't enjoy N seeing that the alarm went on and not pulling M out. Sure, he is THE BEST, but still.... Of course she redeemed herself with the "Retrieve M NOW!" and with the fact that when they came from the mission all she cared about was if M was OK N knew M could take care of himself...she did the right thing though, had to be a little like M and keep her emotions split in 2 *Quote:* When she went off about Michael being jealous of her new power, I just wanted to shake the silly girl! Talk about acting like a child. Boy did she pull that one out of the air! Michael had hardly said anything yet. maybe N had already drank a bit....but I think she was Very wrong, M was more worried about her than jealous LFN avs/sigs
Unregistered(d)	New Regime...	#14	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 08:37:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sage ... >> ... N : " M the only thing we know is that the disk is hidden in a book " ... << Poor baby ... I love to see M's face in that room full of books .. But he continue ..looking for the disk .... trying that this mission directed by his Nikita ... has a good end ... >> ... OMG "Am I under orders to please you ? " ...how on earth did N not faith right there " ... << ITA with you .... >> ... How did Petrosian Know about M/N ? ... << Please , babe ... just tell me ... " WHO " ...can't see the love between M/N .. ?? that is in the air ... when they are in the same place ... Just ... look at their eyes when they look at each other ... or their body language when their close one another ... their love leave by their own skin JESSI ... >> ... Maddy was right when she said that N didn't have what It took to do Maddy's job ... << I'm with you ... N is learning , yet ... She is too much far to be like Maddy is . But I have a question about this point ... thinking at the end of the Series ... S5 ... she is alone ... in charge to Section ... without Michael ... no love ... no desire ... no feeling with anyone ... Right now , Nikita as Section's boss , Michael is gone with Adam ... five years ago .... Could she become in anyone as Maddy is ... ? ... meaning .... A NEW ICE-QUEEN ... ?? Raissa and Loan ... about Petrossian ... >> ... He would have been one of the few people in section who would have truly appreciated how Nikita comes to power ...<< >> ... In order to have control Petrosian knew to pick the weaknest one .... << Yep !! It's right . But I guess Nikita KNEW that Petrosian is going to control herself with her weakness "MICHAEL" and "that " could be more dangerous for both of them .... at the end ... Pattyko... I didn't enjoy N seeing that .... .... he is the BEST ,but still ... << Actually , I think Nikita is too much nervious ... seeing Michael there ... she never thought Petrosian sent him ... She tries to keep her cool ... But it's so hard ... in a place like that one ... with that music ... in front of the man that she's in love GOD !! .... and feeling that hot glance straight to her Poor gal !! I guess she did her best .. except when he said her : Am I under orders to please you ? And she responds : " Of course NOT !! NOT... ?? ...NOT .... ?? webweevil.... >> ... I just wanted to shake that silly girl . Talk about acting like a child ...<< Well ... I repeat I think she did her best in that situation . I wonder she knows ... " NOT " everything is OK ... about her new promotion done by Petrosian . But in the club she is totally in shock to see him there .... But thinking well ... Why not take the chance to stay with her love .. .one moment ... to feel and touch him if exist a opportunity YEAHH !! ... he is the best ... he keeps his cool ... he desires the same that her ... make love ... BUT ...BUT , He knows that is not the moment ,he does guess "THAT " is a Petrosian's game ... to play with both of them ... >> ... the writers sometimes went too far with Nikita's immature behavior ... >> ummmm .... Probably ,but in this case she showed she can find the real point in a situation like Petrosian puts to Section ( read Ops and Maddy ) . And she save Section by herself... doesn't kill to Ops ... After all , she had the best chance to disappear those two ... forever But ... she didn't Yeahhhh!! ... she is not close to be like Maddy , Operation or Michael are into Section's world ... But she is learning ... Sorry ... I never wrote before ... A HUGE POST LIKE THIS ONE ...
Unregistered(d)	Re: New Regime...	#15	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 10:18:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I read one theory that said Madeline, probably knowing of Nikita's initial reluctance to occupy her position, used reverse psychology to get Nikita to accept Petrosian's offer so Nikita would be where she needed her to be when she decided to move against him. On watching it again, I can't decide if Madeline's expression when she sees Pertrosian and Nikita in the perch is satisfied or resentful. I dunno. It's not like Nikita wanted her job in the first place, and she would have known that.
Unregistered(d)	Re: New Regime...	#16	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 10:20:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	JESSI -- *Quote:* I don't know why I never realized this (or maybe I just never thought about it before) but watching it this time around, when Petrosian was talking to N about taking advantage of people's weaknesses, I could see in her eyes her loyalty shifting. She realized that he was taking advantage of her weakness for wanting a life outside Section and she saw how much he was making her take advantage of other people, and she didn't like it one bit. I'm pretty sure I picked that up right away, although it's been quite a while since I saw these for the first time! *Quote:* The respect between Petrosian and Ops is wild, considering what Petrosian tried to do to Ops. And I always think that perhaps Petrosian has laced his hand with one last chemical to get Ops once and for all, but what would that really do at this stage of the game? I've never quite understood that one, myself. Given Operations' tendency toward emotional outbursts, I'm rather surprised he takes it as calmly as he does. *Quote:* So do you think Maddy was right about N wanting power? I think initially it was thrilling to her, but it did turn her off eventually because of the things she was expected to do. Still, that touch of power must have been fun. N doesn't strike me as the type who would like being in power for long. Yes, she wants to do things her way and have her own life, but the cost of power is far too great for her. Not in the same was that Madeline does, that's for sure! I think she would use it in the same way Michael would...to protect those she cares about and to make a positive difference...but I don't think she wants power just for the sake of having power. Sage -- *Quote:* maybe N had already drank a bit....but I think she was Very wrong, M was more worried about her than jealous I agree. It was yet another case of Michael knowing "how things work" in Section better than she did. $:\$ She always seemed to underestimate him in that regard for some reason in s2! maap -- *Quote:* Sorry ... I never wrote before ... A HUGE POST LIKE THIS ONE ... Most impressive! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
Unregistered(d)	Re: New Regime...	#17	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 11:00:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maap-- *Quote:* Could she become in anyone as Maddy is ... ? ... meaning .... A NEW ICE-QUEEN ... ?? My answer is...NO WAY! Nikita is not like that and never will be. Sure she has toughen(?sp) up, and is not so reluctant about killing and such, but she is still Nikita. And nobody can change that. So...if N becomes an Ice Queen...Just shoot me and spare me the misery. *Quote:* Maddy....used reverse psychology to get Nikita to accept Petrosian's offer so Nikita would be where she needed her to be when she decided to move against him Gee I never thought of that! I must be loosing it. It does make sense to me! Maddy probably knew that were there someone else accepting Petrosian's proposal, that person may have just gone with that hit against Ops. She must have thought that P would try to eliminate Ops once and for all, and she knew that somebody else would be more than willing to kill him. So, knowing N's "weakness", her compassion, she knew she wouldn't kill somebody just for that power. But I think I'm diverting here Anyway...good point! "What doesn't kill you,only makes you stronger." "When you wish for something with all your heart, all the Universe plots to grant your wish" Paolo Coehlo ,T[/b] "It's the very possibility of making a dream come true, that makes life more interesting.". The Alchemist[/b][/i]
Unregistered(d)	Re: New Regime...	#18	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 11:12:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Like the ep, althought I walways thought it was weird that Jurgen wasn't mentionned (even though N was given some time off, I expected something...)... In fact, I don't think Jurgen is mentionned at all after AZ... Maybe the writers realised they didn't like Jurgen that much either . *Quote:* So do you think Maddy was right about N wanting power? Never thought of N as a control freak but mommy knows best I do think N enjoyed control because it allowed her to be freer, to have a life outside section. She didn't have what it takes to do the job, and I think even Petrosian knew that and was just using her because she didn't like Op that much and could control her more... $:\$ Even the serie finale left me confused. I'm not sure she can split her life in two like M, Maddy and Ops...even for the greater good... *Quote:* The respect between Petrosian and Ops is wild, considering what Petrosian tried to do to Ops. I think Ops learned to respect his enemies in Viet-Nam. He respected Petrosian because he almost succeed . *Quote:* When she went off about Michael being jealous of her new power, I just wanted to shake the silly girl! Talk about acting like a child. Boy did she pull that one out of the air! Michael had hardly said anything yet. Hihi... Maybe N loved jealous M (in previous eps) as much as we did ---------------------------- M- If it wasn't for the Section, none of us would have a life... ...Well, I know I wouldn't!!!!!!
Unregistered(d)	Re: New Regime...	#19	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 11:13:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko- I can't take the credit for that particular insight, it not mine! It's been awhile since I saw that post, about 2 yrs.
Unregistered(d)	Re: New Regime...	#20	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/25/05 16:19:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jessi - *Quote:* So do you think Maddy was right about N wanting power? Another insightful question! I feel like Nikita wanted to have the power. She just wasn't prepared for everything that came with it. As the newbie, a part of her enjoyed having something to hold over the others' heads. I think she felt she got the power off merit! But then she came to realize that Petrosian was only manipulating her to have her eventually kill Ops (or at least that's how I read his intentions). Once Nikita realized what Petrosian expected of her, she decided that job description was just too much for her concious and made the decision to turn on him. I don't remember who all mentioned it, but I TOTALLY AGREE: Michael; walking into that club: Nikita's discussion with Michael about her power only reinforces my theory above! Now, another "insightful question": Did Michael stay for those drinks (and maybe more) .....or leave her hangin' at the bar? "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions

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