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Posts: 11666 (09/04/05 12:20:05) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None While I'm still hopeful that I'll finally catch up with these discussions, I'm pretty sure I won't be at the computer at the designated time for this one. With S3 being my favorite season, though, I think it's safe to assume it won't be long until I'm commenting again with all of you. In the meantime, feel free to get the ball rolling on one of the most shocking episodes in LFN's history. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S3 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * MI-5 (Spooks) on DVD * "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
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Posts: 0 (09/05/05 08:30:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I didn't wanna be first, here goes: I used to buy the TV guide...to see what will happen next on LFN and it said something like: "Nikita is back and she will find something about Michael's family". Naturally I was all WHAT family? Luckily...I was sitting down, otherwise I'm sure I'd have fainted! When I saw Michael with a kid and SMILING with all of his teeth BIG shock...I don't think I even noticed the haircut at first I HATED both Elena and ADam. I thought Elena was ugly( the opinion has now changed, but I'm sure you must understand my initial reaction) I know Michael was probably ordered to go home and "park" ( since Birkoff knows he's parked somewhere ), but the last time he saw Nikita...she had just 6 hours before she was being cancelled. HOW could he just go home and not try and find out what is happening to her???? How much time has passed since Ops and Maddy are trying to kill her?? And again: WHY is Michael happily staying at home, playing videogames, instead of being there for Nikita?? Nikita on that mission...taking out those guys and just being too good for Ops and Maddy... You GO girl!!!!! Ops& Maddy And now...let's get back to business: this episode must have been shocking for EVERYONE: We were shocked almost as much as Nikita when we saw the wife & kid...Michael was shocked to see her on his doorstep...and I'm sure Elena was shocked too. It's not likely that Michael had ANY "relatives" come to visit Did you see the way she looked at Nikita, until Michael explained that she's just his cousin? ( Yeah right!! cousin madly& deeply in love with him and vice versa ) Poor girl...she thought she could be relieved...little did she know... Michael's look, new hair,clothes whoa baby!!!! I absolutely LOVE it!!!! And he and Adam look SO cute together... Michael on a motorcycle-- I should add this here too: I LOVE Michael on a motorcycle just as much as KG loves him running on stairs Now...I think that the marriage plotline...was the best thing TPTB could've come up with, to explain Michael's coldness towards Nikita in S1&2. I don't LIKE it, but...I must agree it's the most plausible thing. And I was SO relieved that it was JUST a mission...whew!! Of course, Michael helping Nikita and saving her life AGAIN ... Brilliant. Ops& Maddy wouldn't stand a chance against our team composed of M&N Even so...even if I've seen this ep quite a few times by now...I must admit I still hold my breath when that rocket is launched and both Nikita and Michael think she is going to die... My heart breaks for Michael...you can actually see tears in his eyes Awwww...
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Posts: 0 (09/05/05 13:35:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko -- I'm sooooooooo glad I wasn't online during s2! I've heard that there was a leak and people found out about the "wife and kid" storyline back then! I don't remember exactly what I thought when I saw it for the first time, but I know I was DEFINITELY shocked by the revelation during this episode! I'm pretty sure I suspected it was a mission. I'm not even sure I believed Adam was REALLY his son until the tag! Maybe it was just denial or wishful thinking. I have a difficult time imagining s1 or s2 Michael living with Elena and Adam for some reason. The s3 Michael LOOKS like a businessman-husband. Anyway, I digress... $:\$ *Quote:* Michael on a motorcycle-- I should add this here too: I LOVE Michael on a motorcycle just as much as KG loves him running on stairs *Quote:* Now...I think that the marriage plotline...was the best thing TPTB could've come up with, to explain Michael's coldness towards Nikita in S1&2. I agree. It completely fits with everything that came before...whether TPTB intended for it to or not! *Quote:* I must admit I still hold my breath when that rocket is launched and both Nikita and Michael think she is going to die... My heart breaks for Michael...you can actually see tears in his eyes Awwww... That is one VERY intense scene! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
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Posts: 0 (09/05/05 20:15:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	A really good hour, suspenseful and well-written. If I could find Elena and ask her to marry me I would. She is absolutely the kinda woman that makes me go "ooooo". I'm listening to the commentary again as I type, and it's neat to see how friendly and happy Robert Eugene Glazer is compared to Operations. Highlights: As ya'll said, the tension at the end, and the decision that the Adrian story wasn't just forgotten at the opening of the season, particularly meeting George and his very abrupt "Mess with me and you'll WISH you could just be cancelled" meeting with em. I also like how Maddy and Ops decided just to let it go at the end. It felt very in-character for them. The action sequence at the opening in the Chinese building. As Cassar points out, there's tons of money there, but N doesn't care, doesn't try to peel off any for herself. Lowpoints: Only one, poor Maddy's hair. The short birdlike do didn't work, and it makes look like she has altogether too much neck. Was that related to Alberta's cancer treatment somehow?
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Looking for Michael	#4	[-]
Posts: 536 (09/05/05 21:50:41) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I can remember needing bedrest after this eppy. At this point and time Alberta was probably glad to have hair of her own, any style
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Posts: 0 (09/07/05 02:32:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	KG-- *Quote:* I'm pretty sure I suspected it was a mission. I'm not even sure I believed Adam was REALLY his son until the tag! Maybe it was just denial or wishful thinking. Would've been SO COOL if Adam hadn't been Michael's son... but now I'm digressing...Aside being shocked I don't rememebr exactly WHAT I thought... I'm sure it crossed my mind that it would be a mission, but I don't think I was sure until they said so... *Quote:* I have a difficult time imagining s1 or s2 Michael living with Elena and Adam for some reason. The s3 Michael LOOKS like a businessman-husband. ITA. I remember reading "excuses Michael gave do Elena during S1 and 2" on a humorous site... I totally cracked up what they forgot to put there...was...how did Michael justify leaving home...to be "at work" at 5 a.m every day ( during Nikita's training ) *Quote:* I agree. It completely fits with everything that came before...whether TPTB intended for it to or not! I'm sure TPTB didn't intend for it...but I'm glad it turned out so well ( at least for the past, becasue for the future.... ) QuigonJ-- *Quote:* I also like how Maddy and Ops decided just to let it go at the end. It felt very in-character for them. Me too! But it's not like they had much choice either they should have learned NOT to mess with Michael's will to keep Nikita alive!!! *Quote:* Only one, poor Maddy's hair. The short birdlike do didn't work, and it makes look like she has altogether too much neck. Was that related to Alberta's cancer treatment somehow? Yes, it was related with Alberta's cancer treatment. But it grew up nicely in the later episodes...
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Looking for Michael	#6	[-]
Posts: 0 (09/07/05 14:02:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko -- GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Looking for Michael	#7	[-]
Posts: 0 (09/09/05 09:04:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko - I'm sure section arranged for some bogus relatives of Micheal to show up or contact him from time to time, unless they billed him to Elena as an orphan. KG- Maybe you had a hard time seeing S1 and S2 Micheal as married because with the exception of the ep. Noise, it always seemed that Micheal was the one living in Section. In fact until Noise, I wondered if Micheal had a bunk down from Operations. I didn't know about Alberta's condition when I first saw this ep. so my jaw did drop when I saw her. Then it dropped a minute later when I saw Eugene's platinum color. I regained some composure until finding out about Micheal's family, and then since my jaw was still on the floor, Roy's new hair do just went over my head. Regarding Adam, I was a fan of a show called the Pretender right before I began watching LFN. There were several parallels between the two shows. In the Pretender, there was a sinister organization called the Centre which routinely impregnated women to later abscond with their children. I remember thinking that it was just as probable that Section would do the same thing to Elena without her knowledge to move up their timetable if Micheal couldn't get around her reluctance to initiate a search for her father or a pregnancy wasn't happening fast enough the old fashioned way.
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Looking for Michael	#8	[-]
Posts: 0 (09/09/05 16:55:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	anansiimoj -- *Quote:* KG- Maybe you had a hard time seeing S1 and S2 Micheal as married because with the exception of the ep. Noise, it always seemed that Micheal was the one living in Section. In fact until Noise, I wondered if Micheal had a bunk down from Operations. Actually, I was speaking more about his physical appearance than how much time he spent in Section. I just have a hard time imagining the s1 and s2 long-haired Michael with Elena and Adam for some reason. Call it a mental block. It just doesn't work for me! *Quote:* I didn't know about Alberta's condition when I first saw this ep. so my jaw did drop when I saw her. Then it dropped a minute later when I saw Eugene's platinum color. I regained some composure until finding out about Micheal's family, and then since my jaw was still on the floor, Roy's new hair do just went over my head. I didn't know about her illness, either...but when I read about it on the boards, it immediately clicked that she'd worn some hairstyles in s2 that looked like they could have been wigs and it all came together. While watching the series, I'd just assumed she wanted a more severe look to go along with the character's more severe personality in the later seasons. I was shocked by Operations' hair color, but assumed it was vanity thing...his hair had gone somewhat white and he wanted it all to match! As for Roy, I kinda wished they hadn't updated the opening credits for this episode and waited for SES. That would've REALLY made it a SHOCK! Since I'd already seen the credits, I knew it was coming. It was still surprising...just because it was a totally radical look for Michael! It look me YEARS to get used to it and eventually decide that I really LIKED the look! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Looking for Michael	#9	[-]
Posts: 0 (09/10/05 02:15:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Anansiimoj-- *Quote:* I'm sure section arranged for some bogus relatives of Micheal to show up or contact him from time to time, unless they billed him to Elena as an orphan. Uncle Walter? cousin Birkoff? Or maybe great aunt Maddy and uncle Paulie *Quote:* I remember thinking that it was just as probable that Section would do the same thing to Elena without her knowledge to move up their timetable if Micheal couldn't get around her reluctance to initiate a search for her father or a pregnancy wasn't happening fast enough the old fashioned way. I wish I could say that would surprise me, but knowing Section...anything's possible... KG-- *Quote:* I'd just assumed she wanted a more severe look to go along with the character's more severe personality in the later seasons. I went with the same assumption until a friend told me it was Alberta that had cancer... *Quote:* I was shocked by Operations' hair color, but assumed it was vanity thing...his hair had gone somewhat white and he wanted it all to match! Can you believe I didn't even notice his haircolor?? This shows just how much I paid attention to him As for Michael's hair...I LOVEd it the first time I saw it, even if I was shocked
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Posts: 0 (09/10/05 05:19:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko -- *Quote:* I remember thinking that it was just as probable that Section would do the same thing to Elena without her knowledge to move up their timetable if Micheal couldn't get around her reluctance to initiate a search for her father or a pregnancy wasn't happening fast enough the old fashioned way. *Quote:* I wish I could say that would surprise me, but knowing Section...anything's possible... I would assume you'd PREFER this to the "old-fashioned way" in Elena's case! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
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Posts: 0 (09/10/05 08:38:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	No doubt, one of the most shocking moments in television history (or at least on LFN ). I really liked how Nikita "worked" Ferrera. That two-faced jerk got just what he deserved. The look on his face when Michael kicked him to the floor....Classic! You can feel Michael's tension building in this eppy from the time Nikita comes to his door. The entire hour, the fans are left wondering in the back of their minds just what the deal is with Elana and Adam. And Michael seems not only worried about Nikita's safety (ofcourse ) but also must be thinking about how he's gonna explain this one! Thank goodness it's ONLY a mission. Although, even at this point, I felt bad for Adam. Section allowing a child to come into this mission That's just wrong, and wasn't really necessary. Michael could play the "happily married couple" routine with Elana, and choose not to have children. (avoiding spoilers here: Section still had a way to complete the mission, and it didn't involve Adam in the end. As for the hairstyles, I wasn't that shocked, since I've seen so many eps out of order anyway "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions
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Posts: 0 (09/10/05 10:19:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	KG- You mean the long hair, severe, predatory style Micheal had for S1 and S2 doesn't fit in with the wife and kid in suburbia? I think you're right. Having a major " duh " moment about the opening credits, but I must not have paid them any attention when I first saw this ep. or I wouldn't have been catching flies with my mouth. I like your suggestions Pattyko, Walter would certainly be everyone's favorite Uncle, but the only one of that group who actually seems like she could be related to Micheal is MADELINE!
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Posts: 0 (09/10/05 15:17:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	elevendaze -- *Quote:* I really liked how Nikita "worked" Ferrera. That two-faced jerk got just what he deserved. The look on his face when Michael kicked him to the floor....Classic! I have that soundbyte on my computer when I log on. "Hello, Chris..." and then you hear Michael kick him and Ferreira's body thump on the floor across the room! *Quote:* And Michael seems not only worried about Nikita's safety (ofcourse ) but also must be thinking about how he's gonna explain this one! I'm guessing that might have added a new dimension to his nightmares! *Quote:* Michael could play the "happily married couple" routine with Elana, and choose not to have children. (avoiding spoilers here: Section still had a way to complete the mission, and it didn't involve Adam in the end. That's a valid point! Too bad they hadn't thought of THAT ploy SOONER! anansiimoj -- *Quote:* KG- You mean the long hair, severe, predatory style Micheal had for S1 and S2 doesn't fit in with the wife and kid in suburbia? I think you're right. Not so much! Even the Christmas photo Nikita and Adam were looking at in the photo album had Michael with short hair (can you say "continuity error?")! *Quote:* Having a major " duh " moment about the opening credits, but I must not have paid them any attention when I first saw this ep. or I wouldn't have been catching flies with my mouth. A LOT of people must've missed them that night because they've commented on reacting when he turned around with Adam in his arms at the door. GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
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Posts: 0 (09/10/05 15:44:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	kg - *Quote:* I have that soundbyte on my computer when I log on. "Hello, Chris..." and then you hear Michael kick him and Ferreira's body thump on the floor across the room! I heard that one I got some sound bytes for mine, but that's not one of them, yet *Quote:* Even the Christmas photo Nikita and Adam were looking at in the photo album had Michael with short hair (can you say "continuity error?" ! Yeah, TPTB did miss more than a few details along the way. Even with flashbacks we've seen of Michael's pre-Section days, I don't think he had short hair "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions
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Posts: 0 (09/11/05 01:10:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	KG-- *Quote:* I would assume you'd PREFER this to the "old-fashioned way" in Elena's case You would assume CORRECT Now why didn't TPTB think of THAT??? *Quote:* That's a valid point! Too bad they hadn't thought of THAT ploy SOONER! I TOTALLY and COMPLETELY second that!!!! Elevendaze-- *Quote:* I really liked how Nikita "worked" Ferrera. That two-faced jerk got just what he deserved. The look on his face when Michael kicked him to the floor....Classic! Loved it!!! He wasn't too bright! Got just what he deserved!! Anansiimoj-- *Quote:* Michael seems not only worried about Nikita's safety (ofcourse ) but also must be thinking about how he's gonna explain this one! Oooops Poor baby. Talk about stressful situations...
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Posts: 0 (09/11/05 05:29:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	elevendaze -- *Quote:* I heard that one I got some sound bytes for mine, but that's not one of them, yet I think that one came from either RDO or Gene Glazer's website. *Quote:* Yeah, TPTB did miss more than a few details along the way. Even with flashbacks we've seen of Michael's pre-Section days, I don't think he had short hair Well, I guess they didn't want to put a wig on Roy to recreate the photo or didn't want to computer generate a photo that would look kinda fake? They probably took the photo while filming LFM, when they took all of those photos of Michael and Elena playing in the leaves. Come to think of it, he probably should have had longer hair in those, too, but since there is no set timeframe for them, it's not as obvious when they were supposedly taken as with the Christmas photo. Still, that's the kind of thing a perfectionist like Roy would have thought about, I would have thought. $:\$ Pattyko -- *Quote:* You would assume CORRECT Now why didn't TPTB think of THAT??? Probably because ELENA expected to try it the "old-fashioned" way! *Quote:* I TOTALLY and COMPLETELY second that!!!! A big surprise! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
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Posts: 0 (09/11/05 10:52:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	KG-- *Quote:* Probably because ELENA expected to try it the "old-fashioned" way! So...couldn't Section fake a problem with her, or Michael? ( Bolting now ) *Quote:* A big surprise! you know me too well already
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Posts: 0 (09/12/05 07:14:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko -- *Quote:* So...couldn't Section fake a problem with her, or Michael? ( Bolting now ) With MICHAEL? Obviously, Section (a.k.a. Madeline) thought a grandchild would be an effective means by which to reach Salla Vacek. It didn't work. $:\$ *Quote:* you know me too well already I pay attention! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
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Posts: 0 (09/12/05 08:12:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	KG-- *Quote:* With MICHAEL? I know, I know... that's why I was bolting. LOL *Quote:* Obviously, Section (a.k.a. Madeline) thought a grandchild would be an effective means by which to reach Salla Vacek. It didn't work. when it came to Michael...and Nikita.... Maddy seemed to have no idea what she's doing... *Quote:* I pay attention I noticed
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Posts: 0 (09/12/05 15:41:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko -- *Quote:* when it came to Michael...and Nikita.... Maddy seemed to have no idea what she's doing... This plan was in the works before Nikita came on the scene...she MAY have been messing with Michael and Simone back then. There's no canon evidence to support that, although there are a lot of fanfics that espouse that theory. $:\$ GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo

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