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NIGHTJESSI	LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	Lead	[-]
Posts: 11666 (10/16/05 15:35:53) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Once again, RL is pounding away at me. To top it off, my cable Internet is once again down, and I had to do this from the office! Will the fun never end? Seriously though, I'm glad to see you are keeping the DVD discussions moving. I won't even speculate on when I'll be back to join you all, but I'm glad to know there will be plenty of comments for me to enjoy once RL allows me the chance to. While I haven't had a chance to rewatch this episode recently, this is always one of my favorites because it's interesting to see Peta's dual performances and also the reactions of people in Section -- especially Birky -- to the "new" Nikita. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S3 DVD discussions "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#1	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/16/05 15:56:04) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jessi - Hope you make it back in soon. We miss you, babe! I haven't had a chance to re-watch this one yet. But I just loved Birky in this one. He doesn't have a lot of eps that he gets to stand out in. But in this ep, he gets to live his fantasy, of not only being with a woman, but being with "Nikita." He always plays the underdog, and for that moment, he got to be the man! But, I didn't like how he played kiss-and-tell with Walter. Maybe he should've said something to Michael instead! Nikita's pain as she guides Abby around Section and even more so, with Michael was difficult to watch. Watching the two of them together had to be horrible for her. But she was a trooper, and got the point across to Michael that Abby was a ruse. I love to see actors play themselves in two different roles. Peta did an outstanding job, taking on the two different personalities and melding them together. "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#2	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/16/05 17:27:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Still, who shot the double?
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#3	[-]
Posts: 536 (10/17/05 00:39:44) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	QuiGon.J TPTB was wicked in this teaser, we,ll never know who pulled the trigger,But I feel it was maybe Maddy, N did,nt have the cloodblood in her to just kill without being attacked She did in WAR after the guy tried to let rats eat her face away, My girl shot the shot out of him
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#4	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/17/05 05:49:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	JESSI -- Hope to see you back here soon! elevendaze -- *Quote:* But, I didn't like how he played kiss-and-tell with Walter. Maybe he should've said something to Michael instead! He may have been naïve in this episode, but he didn't have a death wish! QuiGonJ & loan31 -- According to one of Chris Heyn's book updates, Nikita killed Abby. My alternate reality rejects that "fact," though. It doesn't fit with what we know about her, IMHO. $:\$ GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#5	[-]
Posts: 11666 (10/17/05 14:59:03) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Elevendaze and kg, I, too, hope I'm back sooner than later. I really miss hangin' here on a regular basis and reading what you all have to say. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S3 DVD discussions "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#6	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/17/05 15:52:04) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	kg - *Quote:* He may have been naïve in this episode, but he didn't have a death wish! Yeah, but if he had told Michael, Mikey surely would've figured out the whole Abby plot much sooner knowing that Nikita wouldn't sleep with Birky. Besides, it would've made for an even thicker subplot I have to believe that Maddy killed Abby. I know TPTB made it seem to have been Nikita, and Chris Heyn supports this, but I simply cannot go for it. Besides, Nikita didn't seem to have the same animosity for Abby as she did for the guy in the wheelchair, whom she'd already killed once anyway. I think she was content to know Abby was out of the picture. She didn't need to pull the trigger herself. "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions
ErnieFairchild1	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#7	[-]
Posts: 434 (10/17/05 17:48:56) Michael Action Figure with Posable Limbs Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hhhm, yeah, the big question is "did Nikita shoot, or did Madelaine?" I honestly don't know who I think did. Did Nikita finally take the advice of Madelaine/section? Not likely. But at the same time, Madelaine is a psycho-analyst; this is the stuff she's supposed to know about. It was a great thing, though, that Michael sees the Nikita double get killed on the screen at the end. OOooohhhhh! He had to have been thinking "Well, this is a little creepy." Not only because it's "Nikita" getting shot, but it could be Section (Madelaine) doing the killing. I thoyught it was an enjoyable episode. It's not one of my favorites, but its good. Actually, I've said this in like a zillion other posts, but ill say it again. I came into the episode late, and i saw Nikita "with" Birkoff, and I was like "WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO THIS SHOW?!" And I stopped watching the show until the whole letter writing campaign for season 5 (hearing about it sparked my interest again!! THANK YOU GUYS, for showing me that this episode was just a big misunderstanding..lol) ------------------------------------------------- Michael: "..Tell them only what they need to know." Nikita: "In other words, treat them like animals.." Michael: "Animals with guns."
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#8	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/17/05 18:56:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This ep by far is one of my top five, i just remember watching and trying to figure out how Nikita was telling Section that it wasn't her. I know I have said this in many posts but i think Peta did an outstanding acting in this ep. Her two characters were so different no wonder Michael noticed. My favorite line is; Baddie: He seems edgy. Nikita: That's just the way he is. So true -Oplvl3
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#9	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/18/05 04:44:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	JESSI -- elevendaze -- *Quote:* Yeah, but if he had told Michael, Mikey surely would've figured out the whole Abby plot much sooner knowing that Nikita wouldn't sleep with Birky. Besides, it would've made for an even thicker subplot What the he11 was Birkoff gonna SAY to Michael? "Hey, I slept with Nikita a little while ago...wanna compare notes?" ErnieFairchild1 -- *Quote:* It was a great thing, though, that Michael sees the Nikita double get killed on the screen at the end. Actually, if you look carefully, Michael turns his head right before the shot goes off. He DIDN'T watch Abby get shot! The general consensus is that he couldn't watch because Abby too closely resembled Nikita and it would've been too difficult for him to see her die! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
ErnieFairchild1	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#10	[-]
Posts: 434 (10/18/05 07:46:38) Michael Action Figure with Posable Limbs Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oplvl3-- haha. I love that line also! It makes me laugh whenever I hear it! kglanzman-- yeah, I've got to agree, what would he have said?! I know I'df be afraid that Michael would just death-chop me right there. lol And, wow, I never really realized that before. Makes sense, why would he WANT to watch that? thanks! ------------------------------------------------- Michael: "..Tell them only what they need to know." Nikita: "In other words, treat them like animals.." Michael: "Animals with guns."
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#11	[-]
Posts: 536 (10/18/05 23:37:39) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Kg, nothing gets pass you
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#12	[-]
Posts: 536 (10/18/05 23:56:11) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I forgot to ask you Kg When do you think M realized that Abby was not N? I want to believe that the lovemaking was the final proof. No one could come close to what they shared.But knowing M he,d go thru it with Abby anyways just to be sure.
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#13	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/19/05 08:45:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ernie -- You're welcome! loan31 -- I wrote 96 episode commentaries! I watched the series three times through and read the transcripts to write them, plus edited and re-edited them at least two or three since! I'd BETTER know what I'm talking about! In my CAM commentary, I counted the clues to Michael. There were seven before I stopped counting! He knew before he ever slept with Abby. That was a diversion to keep her occupied while Section mobilized the mission to extract Nikita. The final straw was her "invitation" for them to get together "like any other night between them." He knew very well that they were not involved like that, but Abby didn't and Nikita knew that! It's unfortunate that the sex was inevitable, but Nikita knew that it was, just as Michael did. $:\$ GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#14	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/19/05 17:07:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	kg - *Quote:* What the he11 was Birkoff gonna SAY to Michael? "Hey, I slept with Nikita a little while ago...wanna compare notes?" You're so cute when you're flustered! My original point (which is now lost in play ) was if Birky is willing to kiss-and-tell (which is really low ) then he may as well do it to Michael's face, instead of telling Walter and risk rumors flying around Section. I know Walter wouldn't risk the info getting back to Michael, but you gotta figure, it's Michael we're talking about! I guess I just get really upset about guys talking like that ITA, Michael knew before the sex that Abby wasn't Nikita. He seemed to be starting to put the pieces together in the van after the mission when she was taken. How do you get over a cold that quick?? "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#15	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/20/05 05:07:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	elevendaze -- *Quote:* My original point (which is now lost in play ) was if Birky is willing to kiss-and-tell (which is really low ) then he may as well do it to Michael's face, instead of telling Walter and risk rumors flying around Section. I know Walter wouldn't risk the info getting back to Michael, but you gotta figure, it's Michael we're talking about! I guess I just get really upset about guys talking like that But Birkoff was obviously NOT thinking clearly...and he didn't have that kind of relationship with Michael -- NO ONE does, because Michael's not that kind of guy. Birkoff DID have that kind of relationship with Walter. He was the most logical choice for Birkoff to turn to in that instance. $:\$ Flustered, my a$$! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#16	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/20/05 17:46:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I kinda agree with elevendaze on this one. If I was Birky, I would have been suspicious. Although I wouldnt have confront M (unless I could use my keyboard as a weapon ) but I would have ask questions like: how are things between you and N? Is there anything? But I think Birky was too happy to ask questions. He was obviously dreaming ( when he asks Walter if he should suggest moving in together lol Makes me laugh everytime) I like that ep, but always finds it pretty uncomfortable to watch birky and N kissing... She said he was like her little brother and I can only think about that when watching (where is the puking smiley when you need it ??!), even though I know it's not really N but Abby...
ErnieFairchild1	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#17	[-]
Posts: 434 (10/20/05 18:58:35) Michael Action Figure with Posable Limbs Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	haha, I never even thought of the whole Little borhter thing, Audrinem. I just thought it was weird over all. But that's a good point. LOL ------------------------------------------------- Michael: "..Tell them only what they need to know." Nikita: "In other words, treat them like animals.." Michael: "Animals with guns."
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#18	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/21/05 04:31:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jessi-- Missing you babe. Come back soon Despite its nature...I kinda liked this episode. I loved to see just how well did M&N know each other and how they could communicate despite all odds. I loved Nikita for being smart enough to let M know what was really going on, and I loved Michael for picking up on it so soon. And I agree that Peta did a GREAT job!!! Abby and Nikita may have "shared" the same body, but Peta did a wonderful portraying Abby so different from Nikita. Of course....the sex scene irked the he11 out of me. That was NOT Nikita, and I never got past that. Moreover...when it's not M&N... TPTB CAN show us a longer scene, not cut off And another one...why do they use some of the best songs on the wrong characters??? As for when did Michael notice that things were wrong...I've said it before...I think that he knew something was not right from the van...when N points the gun at him and then says... " Nice gun" Since when does Nikita LIKE guns and talk about them??? And I don't think Nikita killed Abby either! She's not a cold blooded killer! And if she were to kill her, she would've done it right away...to get it over with. Instead... Nikita aimed at her and hesitated. Then...you see a tear coming out of Abby's eyes. I think that got Nikita...she even tells Maddy she cannot do it. Yes...Maddy is the great psychoanalist, but since when does Nikita listen what she has to say?
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#19	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/21/05 05:26:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Audrinem -- *Quote:* But I think Birky was too happy to ask questions. He was obviously dreaming ( when he asks Walter if he should suggest moving in together lol Makes me laugh everytime) Exactly -- He was floating way up on Cloud 69 and was not about to crash back down to reality! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Cat and Mouse	#20	[-]
Posts: 0 (10/21/05 16:29:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	kg - *Quote:* Cloud 69 "It took me four days to find Nikita. That leaves eleven" We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions

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