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NIGHTJESSI	LFN on DVD: Open Heart	Lead	[-]
Posts: 11666 (05/22/05 01:37:38) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None I hate to face reality, but I just know I won't be here at the designated kickoff time for this episode due to RL. I do hope to catch up with you all soon. In the meantime, here's the thread for when you want to start commenting. Thanx again to everyone who has kept The Briefing Room alive and well during my unintentional absence. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#1	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 08:16:25) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks NIGHTJESSI for leaving this topic open early. In this episode Section encounters a very dangerous threat: an unidentified human time bomb, with target and time of detonation unknown. The only "lead" they have is an imprisoned Red Cell member Jenna Vogler, and from the approximate time of detonation they determine that the target is the UN General Assembly. - -Based upon false intel, poor Birkoff has to sift through thousands of UN employees and delegates to look for possible "carrier". Little do they know that the "carrier" is Vogler herself. Nikita handles herself very well in prison. She is able to adequately defend herself both when attacked by 2 other prisoners, and when the guard tries to kill her on Jenna's orders. Warning: Some mild NC-17 content follows * * * Eventually, after Nikita withstands a night of torture without breaking, Vogler acquires some respect for her. It is at that time that we find out that Jenna Vogler prefers the company of women, and that she wants to have a relationship with Nikita. While that is not surprising, what is a little unusual is to see Nikita actually kissing Vogler: up until now she has been shown kissing men only. One of my favourite scenes is when Michael takes a crack at Jenna in the White Room and states, with his cool "very Michael" certainty: "We will break you!" And finally the revelation - the bomb is Jenna! - and the rush to get her to Containment. When the blast goes off, no one is harmed. In this episode we also see Walter fall in love with a friendly and flirtatious middle-aged operative called Belinda, who happens to love horses. Unfortunately, while looking up the info on Belinda, Birkoff discovers that she is in abeyance, and that her "termination ranking" is only 2. Birkoff, being his usual self, does not have the courage to impart this intel to Walter. He does show quite a lot of courage, however, by changing Belinda's "termination ranking" to 8 when he realises that Operations is about to send her to die on the next mission. (Took me a couple of times of watching this episode to understand the part about Belinda's record. I used the "pause" function on my second viewing to get down the intel. ) Eventually, Operations discovers what Birkoff has done and warns him, with what appears to be an implied threat: "Do not start thinking with your heart. You are too valuable to us." Overall - not a bad episode. It is a pity they killed Belinda so soon thereafter, though. Would have been nice to see Walter happy for a little while longer. "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#2	[-]
Posts: 0 (05/22/05 19:39:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	For me it was my least favorite episode. I didn't like the tangled and messy mind games at the end. It just felt creepy. I did like that Birkoff bought Walter at least some time with Belinda, though part of me thought of her as too nice to be a Section Op in the first place.
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#3	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 20:22:31) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	QuiGonJ, *Quote:* I did like that Birkoff bought Walter at least some time with Belinda, though part of me thought of her as too nice to be a Section Op in the first place. Yeah, I got the impression that she was too nice for a Section Op, too. "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#4	[-]
Posts: 11666 (05/22/05 22:02:52) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Thanks NIGHTJESSI for leaving this topic open early. No problem, blackcondor. Thanx for kicking it off. I just wish RL had allowed for me to watch the episode in advance and post my comments. I do hope to be back to a regular discussion with all of you soon. ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#5	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 22:10:59) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	NIGHTJESSI, *Quote:* I do hope to be back to a regular discussion with all of you soon. Can hardly wait for your comments I am very intrigued "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#6	[-]
Posts: 536 (05/22/05 22:20:15) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jenna must,ve went a little to "south of the border" , while tending to Nikita,s wounds (right). The look on N face was priceless. . Once again where,s Maddy . M was no match for J . never blinked at his threat of breaking her. Maddy would,ve taken care of her in seconds . Makes my mind drift to BIS. Baylin/Sarah had fun with M in the white room
NIGHTJESSI	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#7	[-]
Posts: 11666 (05/22/05 22:29:39) Hopeless Romantic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Can hardly wait for your comments I am very intrigued Man, blackcondor, now I really have to live up the hype! ~~ Keeper of the Nocturnal Flame ~~ We want you at The Briefing Room's LFN S2 DVD discussions The Briefing Room also hosts discussions for: * 24 * ~ * MI-5 * ~ * Alias * ~ etc. Don Francks fans, My Dad The Rock Star (also featuring Lawrence Bayne) is on Nickelodeon weekdays "No one from the outside can understand who we are." ~ M to N in Escape
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#8	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 22:32:18) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Loan31, *Quote:* M was no match for J I did not think so either, but I found Michael very sexy in that scene "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#9	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 22:33:59) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	NIGHTJESSI, *Quote:* Man, blackcondor, now I really have to live up the hype! I am sure you will, dear "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#10	[-]
Posts: 536 (05/22/05 23:00:13) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	blackcondor just way he looks at someone like he,s undressing and OMG ,just thinking about what could be next . see ya later.
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#11	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 23:09:07) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Loan31, *Quote:* just way he looks at someone like he,s undressing and OMG ,just thinking about what could be next Naughty, naughty "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#12	[-]
Posts: 0 (05/22/05 23:28:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* M was no match for J . never blinked at his threat of breaking her. Maddy would,ve taken care of her in seconds ITA! On the other hand...Maddy could have been more of an interest for J As for me...If I were gay and have Michael "break me", I'd change sides in seconds!!! I'm with you guys on this ep being my least fav as well. It was just gross for me: first that Jenna hitting on Nikita (don't get me wrong I have no problem with "girl 2 girl action" I just can't stand ANYONE( male, female, clone, A.I or whatever) being around N that is not Michael of course and vice versa. And besides that J was such a b#tch!!!!) than Belinda being sent to abeyance...well almost...and knowing how much suffering W will have to face... , no HR moments...and very litlle M time. Bummer! The first thing that shocked me in this ep was Michael and Ops's dialogue: " Carier? Unknown. Target? Unknown. Location? Unknown. " Michael not knowing and Ops not going balistic. Mayeb he misses his Maddy. How did they know J was in the room while the surgery took place? And if they did, why didn't they consider her a suspect? Terrorists are not the most trustworthy people, doesn't Section know that? Besides maybe he just meant that the carier just likes women! That alleged food in prison. Yuk!! ewwwww!!!! gross!!! where's that throwing up emoticon when you need it? Looked more like C@c@ to me. I wouldn't eat that in a million years! Nikita kicking a$$ in prison. Very cool! Go Nikita! One question: What do you think Michael& Nikita got for their birthdays from each other? (in later eps of course) I'm sure M went over himself with that...I wish we'd seen sth like that even if it wasn't LFN style With the risk of repeating myself...What is it with everybody wanting Nikita to obey? first M (OK on that one I don't mind) than jurgen and now Jenna?? Nikita looking at the sun through the bars...Soo sad... ...than being beat up...so sad again... Loan31, [/quote]Jenna must,ve went a little to "south of the border" , while tending to Nikita,s wounds (right). The look on N face[/quote] ITA. To quote Maddy... I'm sure "the pain was bad enough" for Nikita. She didn't need J going "emotional" on her! Also...Michael and especially Ops seemed VERY interested in watching N trying to "break" Jenna? think they had some fantasies? "I'm back and I'm bad! " Ops was just not himself in this ep : first he's calm with M not knowing the answer, than with Birky admiting he is too valuable ( H3ck! If I were Birky I'd take advantage of that while I could! ) and than again : "good work!" "the fault lies elsewhere?" Man! S1&2 Ops shocks me sometime with moments of almost being a human being. Birky helping Walter...very sweet. That Birky is kind of inconsistent. Now....he helps, but... * * * * * SPOILERS * * * * * In Playing With Fire he is such a wuss. Not trying to warn M&N...and soo "watching only his back"...In Any Means Necessary...endangering Niktia like that only to save his A$$ and than...giving in M,N and Walter in PWF! "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger." "When you wish for something with all your heart, all the Universe plots to grant your wish" Paolo Coehlo "It's the very possibility of making a dream come true, that makes life more interesting"
loan31	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#13	[-]
Posts: 536 (05/22/05 23:30:10) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I,m going to be late your signature says it all blackcondor1
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#14	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/22/05 23:49:47) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko, *Quote:* As for me...If I were gay and have Michael "break me", I'd change sides in seconds!!! Same here, I must admit. Michael can "break" me any time! *Quote:* Belinda being sent to abeyance...well almost... Actually, Belinda was still in abeyance, even after Birkoff falsified her record. The only thing he changed that I am aware of, was her "termination status". He set it a few points higher than it originally was, so that Belinda did not end up on the suicide mission that very day. *Quote:* The first thing that shocked me in this ep was Michael and Ops's dialogue: " Carier? Unknown. Target? Unknown. Location? Unknown. " Michael not knowing and Ops not going balistic. ITA, he does not, but do you see his face change and become very serious when Michael tells him all this? And, of course, you are right about the food. I do not think I could eat that either. *Quote:* Michael and especially Ops seemed VERY interested in watching N trying to "break" Jenna? think they had some fantasies? Quite probably And I can just imagine what those might have been I actually like when Ops says things like "Good work" for a change. Even though it is so very unusual for him "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#15	[-]
Posts: 0 (05/23/05 00:03:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Actually, Belinda was still in abeyance, even after Birkoff falsified her record You're right. I stand corrected Still...no matter how we put it...it's .... *Quote:* I actually like when Ops says things like "Good work" for a change. Even though it is so very unusual for him Don't get me wrong here, I like him saying that too, but since I know that's not who he is...I'm conflicted : I'm sorry they did't keep him that way through the later seasons and on the other hand...I'm looking for the catch in his behaviour. "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger." "When you wish for something with all your heart, all the Universe plots to grant your wish" Paolo Coehlo "It's the very possibility of making a dream come true, that makes life more interesting"
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#16	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/23/05 00:08:29) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Pattyko, *Quote:* I'm looking for the catch in his behaviour. Actually, with Operations - there is ALWAYS a catch in his behaviour "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#17	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/23/05 00:15:08) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oopsy daisy! Meant to ask a question on this week's episode and forgot: Operations wants to use neuroshock on Jenna. What exactly is "neuroshock"? Is it like electric batons or the use of the ECT machine for interrogation purposes? Speaking of which, what does "RT" stand for in RT Unit? I understand what that device is for, I just do not understand the details. "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#18	[-]
Posts: 0 (05/23/05 00:26:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Actually, with Operations - there is ALWAYS a catch in his behaviour My point exactly! *Quote:* What exactly is "neuroshock"? I'm thinking more like brainwashing or sth like what N was supposed to have been subjected to while captured by Red Cell. I wonder...has the Gelman process been invented yet? As for the RT...I don't know. Help...please...? "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger." "When you wish for something with all your heart, all the Universe plots to grant your wish" Paolo Coehlo "It's the very possibility of making a dream come true, that makes life more interesting"
Unregistered(d)	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#19	[-]
Posts: 0 (05/23/05 19:03:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Can't really stand this episode! HOWEVER, you've gotta hand it to Michael the way he figured out Jenna's spiked heartbeat after viewing all of the slides in the White Room was due to her own reflection! That's why HE'S the Level Five Operative! That was the highlight of this ep, IMHO. $:\$ blackcondor -- I think neuroshock is electroshock therapy...like what Nikita underwent in TIME OUT OF MIND. Have you seen the s4 eps yet? I know you missed some or all of s3. Anyway, I think it's when they hook you up to electronic wires and send shockwaves through your brain. However, I could be wrong about that. $:\$ I have no idea about "RT," either. Sorry! GOTTA HAVE MICHAEL'S JOYSTICK! I have command. NIKITA: "You're going to kill me?" MICHAEL: "No. I'll shoot you in the leg and carry you back. But, it'll be easier for both of us if you can walk." "In life there is always some evil, some good. Between the two of them, we just have to do what we can." -- Michel Gagné (Roy Dupuis) in Scoop III "Love is not the neat thing you expect it to be. Love doesn't make things nice. It might ruin you. It makes things a mess. And it's never perfect." -- Thomas Schumacher (Roy Dupuis) in Waiting for Michelangelo
blackcondor1	Re: LFN on DVD: Open Heart	#20	[-]
Posts: 772 (05/23/05 19:14:16) Michael's Team Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	KG, *Quote:* blackcondor -- I think neuroshock is electroshock therapy...like what Nikita underwent in TIME OUT OF MIND. Have you seen the s4 eps yet? I know you missed some or all of s3. Anyway, I think it's when they hook you up to electronic wires and send shockwaves through your brain Yes, I thought so too - but decided to ask everyone here, just in case Thank you for confirming this for me I have not seen any S3 episodes, and I do not recall seeing any of the S4 episodes either. In S5, I only saw The Evil That Men Do. I made if to Alpha Team! Yippee!! "Sometimes all we have is our dreams." Michael Samuelle

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